Asymmetric Bets
Hedge Fund Analyst, Private Company CFO, Idiosyncratic Stocks & Accelerating Fundamentals
A move back toward 4.8% on the 10-year yield could drive a massive short-covering rally in Cipher Mining. Everyone is on the 6% yield train, while Abbott is freezing approvals before the midterms; those approvals should clear afterward. The squeeze setup looks promising, but it remains a bet on rates. x.com x.comÂ
Cipher's existing AWS and Fluidstack relationships answer concern that a lack of tenants will stall its infrastructure buildout. AI infrastructure is still being built and monetized despite bubble fears. After being dismissed, Cipher delivered forward returns of 18x in 2022 and 15x in 2025; its shares should find a bottom between the 0.786 and 0.887 Fibonacci retracements. x.com x.comÂ
Jan Zuazo Pfingsten
Thematic Investor, Physical Scarcity & AI Infrastructure, Primary-Source Research
Cipher Mining's powered land can attract interest-free capital even when its shares fall. Its $1B 0% convert gives buyers the right to convert above today's price, while convert-arbitrage hedges explain most of the day's 12% drop. Holders can demand par in 2030, so if the stock stalls, free money becomes real debt. x.comÂ
Cipher Mining's convertible notes cap intermediate-term upside at around $22. Raising $775M through an ATM while shares were in the $20s would have caused less dilution and avoided forward share-price risk; doing this deal at $11 instead was terribly timed. The stock is not worth touching here. x.com x.comÂ
Cipher Mining's data-center landlord model looks safer than operators relying on short-term contracts because its tenant pays most of the costs. The stock is back in single digits at about a $4B market cap after falling 30.53% in five days. x.comÂ
Demand for AI capacity without Magnificent Seven lock-in underpins the long-term case for Cipher Digital. The stock also looks unusually oversold in the short term, at a level not seen since 2022. x.comÂ
Debt access for Nebius and Cipher Mining has to be judged against borrowing rates and broader credit conditions. In a reply, mcF_dan says both took on new debt last week; whether they paid higher rates or the debt market is loosening remains open. Their stocks still look set to plunge despite having already sunk hard. x.comÂ
Cipher's extra Barber Lake spend should earn a double-digit unlevered yield on current estimates. The convertible pays for overruns shared with the tenant; capex has reached $14M/MW amid labor and supply-chain inflation. The stock should not rise on the financing news, but will be much higher once the site is leased. Book value is historical cost and does not capture contracted lease cash flows, so 9x book cannot tell whether the stock is expensive. x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.comÂ
Economic projections for falling inflation and rising unemployment leave December as the only window for another Fed hike, exposing long-dated Treasuries to more selling as yields rebound. Treasury buying has cooled yields ahead of the midterms, but yields should rise again with stocks and crypto through year-end. The subsequent liquidity shift should bring bearish volatility at first; then TLT should break above 81-82 as the Fed turns to cuts of at least 50 basis points by March 2027. x.comÂ
Cipher Mining faces likely dilution from its proposed zero-interest debt given its cash flow. The $850m financing would spare cash coupons but leave repayment obligations. x.com x.comÂ
Deep drawdowns and extreme pessimism are making the long-term risk/reward more attractive for AI-infrastructure names such as Cipher Mining, CoreWeave, Eos Energy, Galaxy Digital, IREN Limited and T1 Energy. After 50-90% drawdowns, many trade at bear-market discounts and near major support, making downside easier to define. This depends on believing their long-term fundamentals and growth; not every name will be a winner. x.com x.comÂ
