Noah
Stock Investor & Trader, US Equities
FICO's data moat should widen against VantageScore as it leverages AI, making it an easy decision. Fair Isaac holds about 130 AI patents, per its earnings report. @VJNCapital argues the thesis rests on pricing: a few dollars for a score matter little against a $300k-$500k mortgage, and what counts is how accurately each model predicts default risk; decades of model iterations should be hard to compete against. x.com x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's moat has narrowed but not disappeared, so the selloff over VantageScore may be an opportunity. FHFA Director Bill Pulte let all Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lenders use VantageScore 4.0, ending FICO's effective mortgage monopoly, and floated a cheaper bi-merge model. That brings a lower-cost rival and threatens pricing power. But FICO is deeply embedded in lender systems, underwriting, securitizations and decades of data. It works only if valuation leaves a margin of safety. x.comÂ
S&P Global's moat may be weaker than its ratings pricing power suggests, and its gross profit dollars are likely to come under pressure as AI does more of the work, even if margins rise. FICO and the credit bureaus once looked just as required and oligopolistic until Vantage, with regulatory help, built a better product and upended pricing. The market is skeptical of historical data resale, as with CoStar and Verisk; the index business looks durable. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's scoring moat is eroding after the FHFA said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will move to a unified mortgage pricing grid that places VantageScore alongside Classic FICO. VantageScore borrowers will reach the top pricing tier at 780+, the same threshold as FICO, eliminating their previous 20-point disadvantage. As @oguzerkan notes, even after a 60% drop this year the stock still trades at 19x earnings, a reminder never to overpay for quality. x.com x.com x.com x.comÂ
Fair Isaac looks insanely cheap at its lowest P/E in well over a decade, with fundamentals that still look beautiful. Per @stock_analysisx, the derating follows the US government's move to end FICO's mortgage scoring monopoly, leaving the stock at its lowest P/E since 2013. x.com x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's risk/reward is starting to look enticing at current levels. If it reaches about $75 of EPS by 2029 and trades at 20x earnings, that implies a stock price of about $1,500. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's moat has shrunk to a puddle after one pricing-grid change. Per @wallstengine, FHFA said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will move to one mortgage pricing grid that puts VantageScore alongside Classic FICO, with VantageScore borrowers reaching the top band at 780+, the same as FICO, giving lenders a cheaper alternative on the same framework. The shares fell 18%. x.comÂ
FICO's competitive position looks safer because the GSEs' pricing grid neutralizes VantageScore's automatic pricing edge. VantageScore 4.0 has its own loan-level pricing grid that adjusts thresholds so a VantageScore is treated roughly like a Classic FICO score minus about 20 points, matching VantageScore's typical uplift. That avoids a setup that would have more heavily favored VantageScore over FICO. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac is among the stocks worth owning. x.comÂ
FICO is being disrupted, though not dying, and its moat is more fragile than it looks. Most banks' own scoring models are equal to or better than FICO's and are used alongside it. FICO's real moat is the level playing field its score gives the institutional and resale mortgage markets, so it is truly over for FICO if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac switch to VantageScore. x.com x.com x.comÂ
FICO is trading at its lowest valuation of the decade, about 13x forward earnings for what is essentially a duopoly, which is attractive. @thejmkane counters that it is no longer really a monopoly, but a duopoly at 13x is not so bad. x.com x.comÂ
