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Applied Optoelectronics is in the right place at the right time but isn't a high-quality business; it mainly serves as spillover capacity when Lumentum, Coherent and Marvell can't meet demand, so why own it over Marvell? Management also draws terrible Glassdoor reviews, 1.7 of 5 stars, 1% CEO approval and 7% recommending it across 124 reviews, pointing to high turnover and operating risk. The tone of its earnings call was also off-putting. x.com x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics is not trustworthy because of its execution record and culture. In the 100G cycle, management made aggressive claims, insiders sold and the company failed to deliver, and the same team runs it now. Per Culper in 2025, industry contacts called its reputation tarnished and said Nvidia saw working with it as a non-starter. Glassdoor and Indeed reviews describe dysfunctional senior management, and its handling of the latest $600M at-the-market offering adds to the distrust. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' roughly $12B valuation is absurd any way you look at it, even after management raised its mid-2027 projection to $471M in monthly revenue. It doesn't hold up on 2027 revenue, let alone earnings or the margin compression co-packaged optics would bring. Management will keep overpromising and underdelivering, could face legal trouble over what looks like a pump and dump, and has been in such trouble before; its own employees deride the company. x.com x.com x.com
Lumentum's 109% year-on-year growth and sold-out capacity through 2029 make selling its AI optics exposure questionable. Bloomberg reported Marvell is in advanced talks to buy it; the appeal depends on the price, especially when holders of an $80 billion Lumentum would become holders of a $320 billion-plus Marvell growing 37%. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' case now hinges on visible production progress. Its drop on OpenAI's revenue run-rate figures reflected an accounting question, not any change in laser or memory supply, per Carrio Research. If AAOI fails again next quarter and pushes its timelines out another quarter, it will be ugly. x.com
AI bandwidth demand still favors Coherent and Lumentum, but tight customer financing can delay orders and lasting valuations need durable profits. A model provider losing share need not reduce total bandwidth use. Coherent could beat and raise guidance; Lumentum may only meet estimates this quarter, improving next quarter. If margins partly reflect scarce indium phosphide, added supply will test whether upgrades, volume and cost gains sustain earnings. These earnings calls remain forecasts. … Show more
Lumentum requires paying up heavily for a company that is not yet making money. Revenue grew 109% year over year, but it trades at about 25 times annualized sales, and it is growing less than memory makers at ten times their valuation. @ZeekTyt cites Lumentum's CEO expecting to supply only about 30% of requested laser demand as CPO and NPO ramp in 2027, with balance around 2029-30. x.com x.com
Ongoing demand makes Applied Optoelectronics' risk/reward make a ton of sense at current levels. The price makes little sense if management is credible even a shred; execution could falter, but that risk is, without a doubt, already priced in. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' durability beyond the pluggable cycle is in doubt: instead of staying euphoric on pluggable growth, the market is already asking what comes next. It still has a low starting valuation and accelerating fundamentals, but longer-term durability is missing, and the stock failed to bounce hard after a sharp drawdown. x.com
Lumentum still has substantial upside despite the selloff: its CEO says optical components are effectively sold out through nearly 2029, extending the earlier severe supply-shortfall outlook. The reported OpenAI revenue projections behind the selloff do not change that demand case. x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' projected $5.65 billion in 2027 revenue against a $6 billion market cap drives its appeal. It may be the best opportunity in the market right now. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics is lagging as the market becomes more discerning between low-quality companies and high-quality ones with durable growth. @GavinSBaker said weeks ago the AI bottleneck trade was over, and that has played out in optics: Lumentum keeps climbing while weaker names like Applied Optoelectronics lag. x.com x.com
