Masa’s Son
Non-Consensus Long/Short Technology Investor
Applied Optoelectronics' roughly $12B valuation is absurd any way you look at it, even after management raised its mid-2027 projection to $471M in monthly revenue. It doesn't hold up on 2027 revenue, let alone earnings or the margin compression co-packaged optics would bring. Management will keep overpromising and underdelivering, could face legal trouble over what looks like a pump and dump, and has been in such trouble before; its own employees deride the company. x.com x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics is a short on terrible management and no moat, and co-packaged optics will replace the pluggables now enjoying their goldilocks moment. The CW lasers CPO needs are a commodity with less pricing power and full dependence on China for InP, and Nvidia's investments in Coherent and Lumentum will add pricing pressure. A @bubbleboi post warning that a company might be a fraud is cited as further confirmation. x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' durability beyond the pluggable cycle is in doubt: instead of staying euphoric on pluggable growth, the market is already asking what comes next. It still has a low starting valuation and accelerating fundamentals, but longer-term durability is missing, and the stock failed to bounce hard after a sharp drawdown. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics is in the right place at the right time but isn't a high-quality business; it mainly serves as spillover capacity when Lumentum, Coherent and Marvell can't meet demand, so why own it over Marvell? Management also draws terrible Glassdoor reviews, 1.7 of 5 stars, 1% CEO approval and 7% recommending it across 124 reviews, pointing to high turnover and operating risk. The tone of its earnings call was also off-putting. x.com x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' possible 2028 revenue makes even a 100% takeover premium too small if it delivers on 2027-28 expectations. Revenue of $6-8B in calendar 2028 at an illustrative 8x multiple would imply about $56B in market value, versus $7B today. That is the upside worth holding out for. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics is diluting shareholders with a $600M offering, which sent the stock down 9% after hours. Management likes to burn shareholders, so staying away for now. x.com x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' Q3 and Q4 would have to be heroic to hit guidance, so a miss could still kill the stock. It trades below projected 2027 sales and much of the risk is already priced in, but that would not eliminate the downside on a miss. x.com
Ongoing demand makes Applied Optoelectronics' risk/reward make a ton of sense at current levels. The price makes little sense if management is credible even a shred; execution could falter, but that risk is, without a doubt, already priced in. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' rally was momentum-driven, not evidence of a revolutionary company, and the market is finally figuring that out. The company cannot be blamed for raking in money during a once-in-a-blue-moon rally. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' future earnings are not guaranteed, so its elevated price is highly susceptible to a drawdown that could create a far better buying opportunity by the end of next year. Capex can be cut, public and political pushback can delay data centers, and new data centers may fail to secure financing, any of which would cut projections. @RatWasteCapital counters that at $90 the stock trades at about 6x fiscal 2028 EPS if a $5.6B run rate holds. x.com x.com
Applied Optoelectronics' case now hinges on visible production progress. Its drop on OpenAI's revenue run-rate figures reflected an accounting question, not any change in laser or memory supply, per Carrio Research. If AAOI fails again next quarter and pushes its timelines out another quarter, it will be ugly. x.com
Applied Optoelectronics looks expensive at about 40x 2027 earnings, still trading around $175 as @citrini notes. x.com
