NAV erosion is the problem with the leveraged Nebius ETF, in reply to a post saying it is time for NBIZ. x.com
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Nebius will dilute its shareholders, and the easy money in the stock has already been made. x.com
Nebius's current margins leave virtually no valuation support for its shares. It should do well over the medium term, but remains a high-quality speculative story with massive execution risk. x.com
Nebius's 2x leveraged ETF suffers brutal decay that can crush returns even when the call on the stock is right. Since July 1 it rose 5% while Nebius stock rose 21%, because rebalancing every day to track 2x daily returns erodes value over time. Buying the stock beats buying the leveraged ETF. x.com x.com
Nebius looks attractive because active accumulation is clear despite a four-month decline of 40% from its all-time high. The correction may not be finished, but the buying volume supports accumulating through it. x.com
Rising interest rates make Nebius, IREN and other neoclouds even more worth avoiding. They may still do well, but they are not worth owning. x.com
Nebius is not a buy right now, because IREN is the better opportunity. Nebius is a good company with a bright future but carries a lot of execution risk currently. IREN's smaller market cap and uncontracted sites give it more upside; demand is strong enough that contracts look likely, and the longer it waits the better the odds of better terms and a deal. IREN could 2–3x within a year, if not more, though it too carries execution risk. x.com x.com
Nebius has become a crowded trade in a very unforgiving market, so this is no longer a typical buy-the-dip story and greedy late buyers will be punished severely. It made fortunes for those who were early; now it is making excuses for those who are late. x.com
Nebius looks like a clear stock promotion rather than a viable for-profit business, much like Oklo. A quoted skeptic questions valuing Nebius on EBITDA when everything hangs on debt and its largest asset, GPUs, is short-lived. Bulls hold their view, and reality will come for them in due time. x.com
Nebius looks too extended to buy after a 200%-plus run this year, even though its execution has made it the standard-bearer of neoclouds and the price isn't expensive long term. In a market this volatile, entry price matters a lot: a 50% drop from a chased price needs a 100% gain to recover. Holders can hold, but new buyers should wait for FUD and a better entry, since weakness will come eventually. @daniel_koss expects Nebius to guide to $20-30B of 2027 ARR and deliver $35-40B. x.com x.com … Show more
Nebius's proposed $3.75B convertible notes offering is a negative for shareholders. Per Trade The News, Nebius announced a proposed private offering of $3.75B of convertible senior notes. x.com x.com