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Hedge Fund Analyst, Private Company CFO, Idiosyncratic Stocks & Accelerating Fundamentals

27 Oct, 17:28Latest

AI agents' productivity over human labor should lift GPU demand and rates for neoclouds. The bottom looks in for CoreWeave, Nebius, Boost Run, Sharon AI and IREN. Gavin Baker says token prices can fall as revenue per GPU rises; paraphrasing Elon, even $38 per GPU-hour can pay off. CoreWeave's five-year fixed contracts may lag current rates; Boost Run has less capacity locked in. If SpaceX takes more growth, slower cash burn could rerate neoclouds, though smaller customers may pay less. x.com x.com x.com

25 Oct, 23:21

Scarce compute and contracted demand support neoclouds despite selective financing. CoreWeave and Nebius have large backlogs; older capacity may reprice higher. Nvidia's DSX may aid execution but is no bailout. A 50 bp rate rise does not automatically erase returns. IREN, Boost Run and Sharon AI could earn asymmetric returns if they convert books with quality customers and prepayments. The long tail faces consolidation over the next 12-18 months. x.com

Jonah Lupton

CEO & CIO of FirstWave Capital, Long-Biased Growth

20 Oct

NBIS

CRWV

Scarce compute could ease financing for neoclouds such as Nebius and CoreWeave by shortening capex payback. Elon Musk says SpaceX's new deployments pay back in less than a year at current pricing; that bodes well for other neoclouds facing financing concerns if they achieve similar economics. GPU rental rates keep hitting highs, contrary to Gartner's claim of oversupply. x.com x.com x.com x.com

Small Cap Snipa

AI & Data-Center Equity Research, Power Infrastructure & Cloud Compute

19h ago

Premium-model inference revenue could support much higher compute pricing for AI infrastructure providers. Evercore models over $120M/MW in potential lab revenue while labs pay roughly $30-50M/MW for compute. With power and GPUs scarce, SpaceX AI, Nebius, IREN and CoreWeave can capture the biggest uplift over historical pricing if they deliver contracted high-density capacity. x.com x.com

Pegasus

Long/Short Equity Investor

25 Oct

NBIS

CRWV

IREN

Hardware suppliers and VC keep financing cash-hungry labs and neoclouds, making compute rental prices at CoreWeave, Nebius and IREN look artificially supported. Lab revenue growth is finally plateauing at 800% year over year after roughly tenfold equity gains across the stack over the last decade. The buildout is also crowding out the economy's appetite for debt. x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com

Paradis

AI & Technology Investment Research

20 Oct

NBIS

CRWV

Scarce compute prices Nebius's and CoreWeave's GPU rentals by marginal-token value, not chip cost. Better models lift installed watts' value faster than new GPUs devalue old ones. SpaceX says contracts renew at higher dollars per watt; CoreWeave's A100 deal runs to 2029, and Nebius's Blackwell auction cleared 15% above its prior high. The 2-3 year GPU-life bear case keeps getting set back. If supply catches demand, older GPUs would be repriced by performance per watt, but that looks far off. … Show more

Noah

Stock Investor & Trader, US Equities

20 Oct

NBIS

CRWV

IREN

Accelerating compute demand could drive a V-shaped recovery in beaten-down neocloud stocks if SpaceX earnings confirm it. Nebius, CoreWeave and IREN are on watch. GPU spot rates rose rapidly: H100s $3.34/hour, H200s $4.93, B200s $8.13. Nebius had $582M Q2 revenue, nearly 6x YoY; CoreWeave a $129B backlog early in Q3; SpaceX 1.4 GW compute capacity last quarter, up from 400 MW a year ago. Whether SpaceX converts demand into meaningful revenue and EPS beats remains the key question. x.com

Jo Bhakdi

Investor, Tesla & AI Stocks

25 Oct

CRWV

SPCX

Slower neoclouds such as CoreWeave face an uphill battle against SpaceX's faster data-center buildout. Demand may be effectively unlimited, but falling a year or two behind creates a $5-10B cash cost disadvantage they may not survive. Some could still pull off a miracle; SpaceX itself competes as a neocloud and has no reason to buy firms that cannot build data centers. x.com x.com x.com

Burak Finance

Head of Analytics, Growth Investor, PLTR/NBIS/RKLB

26 Oct

NBIS

CRWV

IREN

Lower AI token prices drive more usage, making GPUs scarcer and raising rental rates for neocloud capacity. Gavin Baker reports rising GPU rental prices even as token prices fall; the GPU constraint never left, and higher rental prices make the ARR math work again. x.com x.com

Alex A.C.

Value/GARP Investor, Semiconductor & Financial Analysis, Electronics MEng

28 Oct

NBIS

Nebius' software efficiency and a possible end to heavy AI financing support a re-rating. Per @DrTomsLens, its engineers got about 43% more video output from the same GPUs, cutting compute cost per second by 30%; newer hardware alone is not enough without capable software teams. Oracle expects to fund growth from free cash flow in FY2029, suggesting capital-heavy AI providers may eventually outgrow debt and dilution. Google Cloud reported 103% revenue growth amid strong AI infrastructure demand. … Show more

Mark Harvey

Bitcoin & Equity Investor, Engineering/Finance Background, MSTR/TSLA/SPCX

23 Oct

SpaceX's near-monopoly in global satellite internet, built on reusable rockets, should generate enormous cash flow to partly fund its AI compute buildout. Those cash flows should strengthen its credit profile and let it finance the rest more cheaply than pure-play neoclouds CoreWeave, Nebius and IREN, which SpaceX makes obsolete. Grok ensures deployed compute earns revenue if customers back out. There is no reason to own a pure-play neocloud when SpaceX is available. x.com x.com

CMS Invests

Technology Investor, Options Trader, Finance at Kalshi

20h ago

NBIS

VST

MRVL

NOK

CRDO

A rising value of compute per watt should benefit AI cloud, chip, connectivity and power suppliers. Elon Musk says that value will rise over time. Nebius has Microsoft and Meta deals; Marvell benefits from custom silicon demand; Credo connects GPUs; Vistra has long-term nuclear supply deals with Amazon and Meta; Nokia's Nvidia partnership could help it capture data-center networking growth. x.com x.com

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