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Fair Isaac's pricing power is under threat now that it has a real competitor, so assuming it keeps $10 rates is crazy. Rocket Mortgage just said it will use VantageScore for 100% of its mortgages, after FICO raised prices 17x over the last few years. As @em013L explains, the credit bureaus own VantageScore and have long sent it free alongside FICO scores, but the financial ecosystem has been built around FICO. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's moat has shrunk to a puddle after one pricing-grid change. Per @wallstengine, FHFA said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will move to one mortgage pricing grid that puts VantageScore alongside Classic FICO, with VantageScore borrowers reaching the top band at 780+, the same as FICO, giving lenders a cheaper alternative on the same framework. The shares fell 18%. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac is cheap for a reason: the government has effectively declared war on it. The FHFA ended its monopoly on mortgage credit scores and put VantageScore on the same pricing grid, and Rocket has already switched. The stock is down 50% this year, and there are better opportunities elsewhere. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's moat has narrowed but not disappeared, so the selloff over VantageScore may be an opportunity. FHFA Director Bill Pulte let all Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lenders use VantageScore 4.0, ending FICO's effective mortgage monopoly, and floated a cheaper bi-merge model. That brings a lower-cost rival and threatens pricing power. But FICO is deeply embedded in lender systems, underwriting, securitizations and decades of data. It works only if valuation leaves a margin of safety. x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's moat is eroding as mortgage lenders gain a cheaper alternative on equal terms. Per Wall St Engine, FHFA said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will move to one pricing grid that puts VantageScore alongside Classic FICO, removing VantageScore's 20-point disadvantage so its borrowers also reach the top band at 780+. VantageScore costs about $0.99 per score versus roughly $10 for FICO. x.comÂ
Pulte's move to treat VantageScore on par with FICO loosens how mortgage credit is priced rather than making homes more affordable. Pulte claims it saves $1,600 per Rocket closing, yet the score fee gap is about $9; the real change is VantageScore 4.0 running up to 20 points higher. That may push home prices up. VantageScore was never tested through the financial crisis or for negative convexity, which MBS buyers must know, so they are expected to push back. x.com x.com x.comÂ
FICO looks fairly cheap given how sticky its scores are: lenders have little reason to switch to VantageScore over something they have history with, since the score's cost is tiny relative to bad debt on a loan. A replying post counters that FICO must fight the VantageScore adoption trend after pricing-power abuse drew the administration's ire, leaving open where earnings power settles. x.com x.comÂ
Fair Isaac's scoring moat is eroding after the FHFA said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will move to a unified mortgage pricing grid that places VantageScore alongside Classic FICO. VantageScore borrowers will reach the top pricing tier at 780+, the same threshold as FICO, eliminating their previous 20-point disadvantage. As @oguzerkan notes, even after a 60% drop this year the stock still trades at 19x earnings, a reminder never to overpay for quality. x.com x.com x.com x.comÂ
Fair Isaac is terminally a sub-20 P/E business now that its mortgage monopoly faces a price war. Per @qualityequities, regulators cleared the cheaper VantageScore for mortgages, and the credit bureaus are aggressively discounting it to take share, undercutting the pricing power investors valued FICO for. x.comÂ
FICO's competitive position looks safer because the GSEs' pricing grid neutralizes VantageScore's automatic pricing edge. VantageScore 4.0 has its own loan-level pricing grid that adjusts thresholds so a VantageScore is treated roughly like a Classic FICO score minus about 20 points, matching VantageScore's typical uplift. That avoids a setup that would have more heavily favored VantageScore over FICO. x.comÂ
FICO is being disrupted, though not dying, and its moat is more fragile than it looks. Most banks' own scoring models are equal to or better than FICO's and are used alongside it. FICO's real moat is the level playing field its score gives the institutional and resale mortgage markets, so it is truly over for FICO if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac switch to VantageScore. x.com x.com x.comÂ
