Adobe's 8x P/E signals that its outlook numbers are unreliable, its capital allocation is poor and it is likely a casualty of AI. It spent all its free cash flow buying back shares at $400 and is on a direct collision course with AI; no one can say its products will be as crucial as in the last two decades. Unlike Meta in 2022, whose ads business was never impaired, there are too many unknowns. It could work or stagnate for years, so it sits in the too-hard bucket even if multiples scream buy. … Show more

Adobe remains the best example of what not to buy because AI has had minimal impact and its backlog is slowing rapidly. Management chose user acquisition over monetization, as Duolingo did, leaving open whether users stay when prices rise; for now, waiting to monetize looks the same as being unable to. Free or cheaper tools that match its specialist subscriptions could cut usage, RPO and cash generation. When acceleration and margin expansion are everywhere, owning neither makes little sense. … Show more

Adobe trades at 2018 price levels even though revenue has grown nearly 200% since then, from $2.2B to $6.4B, and its $25B buyback on a $100B market cap amounts to a quarter of the company. The bottom may not be in yet, but the market won't ignore it forever. x.com 

Adobe is not re-accelerating: management guides growth down to 9-10% with operating margins falling, and more pressure lies ahead. That makes buying every dip at about 16x earnings a mistake, even as @qualtrim points to 12% revenue growth and a 47.4% operating margin. x.com  x.com 

Adobe's record 12.72% free cash flow yield shows it is cheap, but not yet that the selling is over. That yield, more than triple its norm, signals the market expects AI to shrink its cash flows over the coming years. Forward earnings have more than doubled in five years while the forward P/E fell from about 50x to 15x. A cheap stock can stay cheap; it takes a few quarters of steady revenue and growing cash flow to prove the AI fear wrong, with buybacks gaining power the longer it stays low. … Show more

Adobe is a bit undervalued, though not significantly, at 13x earnings with 13% revenue growth. Its falling profit margin is concerning, and AI threats are growing as image generation improves. x.com 

Adobe's fair value is about 14x earnings, and nothing suggests the multiple should expand, so the stock's upside is capped at EPS growth. That is a good bet only if Adobe's EPS growth beats the Nasdaq 100's, and there is little confidence it will. x.com  x.com  x.com 

Adobe is best avoided because a very low valuation comes with a highly uncertain future, making the situation amazingly complex. x.com 

Adobe's cash generation and growing AI subscriptions give its tentative turnaround fundamental support. It has $10.59B in free cash flow; revenue and EPS are expected to grow at double-digit rates through 2028, while AI-first ARR is up 150% year over year and Firefly ARR 40% quarter over quarter. Its Stage 1 base is attempting to break a long downtrend. x.com 

Adobe is completely cooked: its low P/E is low for a reason, and there are plenty of better companies to buy. @StockSavvyShay notes that Anthropic's new Claude Design lets users create prototypes, slides and one-pagers by talking to Claude, pushing into territory associated with Figma and Adobe without requiring much design experience. x.com