Tesla's stock has decoupled from its fundamentals. Over the past three years the share price rose 47% while EPS fell 70% and free cash flow fell 7%. x.com
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Tesla at about 330x earnings has already priced in Optimus, robotaxis and more, despite no revenue growth over the past two years. Optimus and autonomous vehicles are the real story, but the Optimus rollout must go perfectly for outperformance to continue, and any considerable setback could send the multiple crashing. Palantir's 226x is easier to justify with 70% revenue growth and expanding margins. An Elon premium is in play, and Tesla is basically a meme stock trading on hype. x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com
Tesla's 200x earnings multiple asks too much of weak current results and speculative future products. Third-quarter revenue fell 0.4% year over year and EBIT missed estimates by 25%, despite gross-margin and cash-flow beats. Robotaxis, humanoids and other future plans may have appeal, but impressive parts of the business do not make the stock worth its current price. x.com x.com x.com
Tesla's $1.5T Elon premium looks unjustified while Musk seems to favor SpaceX for the AI compute buildout. Tesla shareholders missed almost the entire AI boom; owning xAI and building that infrastructure might have doubled Tesla's stock. Q3 adjusted EPS was $0.48, down 4% year over year; if Tesla were a non-Musk company, four such quarters at 10x earnings would mean $19.20 a share versus $386. Long-term company prospects remain attractive, but the stock is still not worth buying back. x.com … Show more
Tesla's growing FSD subscriber base supports the longer-term autonomy case, but the AI build is taxing cash now. Paid FSD seats reached about 1.74 million, up 67%, while free cash flow fell 62% to $1.53 billion despite an EPS and sales beat. Post-report weakness is a discount discussion only for holders able to weather another weak cash quarter; check FSD net adds and FCF before leaning hard. A possible SpaceX combination is not part of this case. x.com
Tesla's falling energy and storage revenue undercuts what bulls call its next growth case. In Q3, that revenue fell 16% year over year; auto revenue fell 3%, operating income 56%, GAAP net income 43%, GAAP EPS 44% and free cash flow 62%. These terrible results make $500 a share look unlikely, even though the stock has not fallen 20%. x.com x.com
Tesla's valuation is too stretched to justify buying now. Slava cites a 189x forward P/E, falling Q3 deliveries, a 1.4% operating margin and negative free cash flow; other investments look preferable. x.com
Tesla's Robotaxi and Optimus can carry substantial value before major profits because future cash flows, growth and the chance of success matter more than current P/E. In an illustrative model, a one-year delay cuts opportunity value about 11% if payments stay unchanged; faster sustained growth can more than offset it, while reliable deployment can raise the assessed chance of success. These figures are not Tesla forecasts; investment costs and execution risk still matter. x.com
Tesla's valuation is gradually starting to matter, with shares at 140 times a 2027 non-GAAP EPS consensus that likely gets cut. The stock fell 4% after a gross margin and EPS miss. Many fans reflexively buy post-earnings drops no matter the results, which creates opportunities. x.com x.com x.com
Tesla's low forward growth and negative free cash flow weaken its long-term appeal. Next-twelve-month revenue growth is 8.9%, while increasing competition threatens its moat. Tesla is noise for now with Elon focused more on SpaceX; its ADR reading of 2.48 is below the 4-plus needed to turn a day trade into a swing, though earnings may change that. x.com x.com
Keeping Tesla separate from SpaceX looks better for long-term shareholders because standalone businesses can receive more valuation credit. Tesla's stock trades on FSD and Robotaxi uptake and Optimus's intrinsic value, not Model Y sales or EV demand. Musk announced a committee to explore a merger, with a rumored $550-a-share takeout that would bring a quick pop. The chart targets $395, then $405, and $550 after a close above $440. x.com
Tesla's valuation has tripled even though its revenue has declined over three years. x.com