SV_Techie
Entrepreneur & Startup Mentor, Technology Investor
Intel is overvalued after running up about 5x from $20, with more capex, low operating margins and a run-up driven largely by Trump's promotion rather than fundamentals. TSMC earns over 30% operating margins and is ahead of schedule in Arizona, so Intel has no US fab monopoly. Trump leaves office in two years, and these fabs are unlikely to meaningfully improve on existing 2nm yields. It could still be a great trade. x.com x.com x.com x.com x.comÂ
Intel's high valuation is hard to justify while its foundry turnaround remains unproven. At about 59x forward earnings, nearly three times TSMC's 19x, Intel has slower projected revenue growth; its foundry lost $2.09 billion in Q2 2026, while TSMC's Q3 operating margin was 58.7%. A politician's stock purchase alone does not make Intel a buy. x.com x.comÂ
Intel looks priced for too much good news before it has actually delivered on anything. Its CPU story was carrying the share price. x.comÂ
Intel's near-term growth is constrained by a Kiryat Gat factory blast and memory-driven PC weakness. The weak Q4 outlook calls for answers: the blast looks set to cut roughly $300 million of revenue in Q4 and could have a similar impact in Q1, limiting data-center growth. Fab ownership gives Intel pricing power and enterprise demand is strong; external foundry customers would add another tailwind if won. CEO Lip-Bu Tan said Nova Lake will allow Intel to take back share. x.com x.com x.com x.com … Show more
Intel's production was reportedly affected by a pause at its Israel fabs, which should benefit competitors Arm and AMD. Both look good on that basis. x.comÂ
Intel's valuation is at all-time highs while its business condition is near all-time lows. It is more a CPU company than a foundry, and TSMC holds huge scale, capex and process advantages while building substantial US capacity, so the recent rally makes no sense. x.com x.comÂ
Intel's poor EMIB-T packaging yields threaten its plans for next year. Per a confidential source, yields are very poor, and EMIB-T may now slip into the following year. The 14A PDK 0.9 matters more for the long term. Intel remains a very strong long-term bull case because yields should improve, though setbacks can arise along the way; whether to avoid this near-term risk is a personal judgment. x.com x.com x.com x.com x.com x.comÂ
A supply response could compress Western Digital's pricing and margins, eroding its apparent cheapness. Its 2013-24 normalized earnings merit a look: even huge demand growth in other industries eventually drew supply and mediocre returns. A digestion/reset would hurt buy-and-hold investors, though the outcome is uncertain. Pre-AI economics were mediocre and unlikely to become amazing post-AI; TSMC's stronger pre-AI economics make its post-AI case better. x.com x.com x.comÂ
TSMC may lose pricing power as performance gains shift from shrinking transistors to stacking, interconnects and optics, while logic folding could make older processes competitive. Despite strong leading-edge demand, investors may overestimate the profit share its node leadership can retain. Its cautious expansion and past reluctance toward advanced packaging suggest a risk-averse culture that protects returns but could leave it late to disruptive technologies and key customers. x.comÂ
Intel is the answer to the industry's heavy reliance on TSMC, which faces too much overflow demand and single-point-of-failure risk. Another investor lists Nvidia, Broadcom, AMD, Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta, OpenAI and others as all depending on TSMC for their chips. x.comÂ
Intel lacks the leading-edge capacity to justify its premium valuation and cannot fund the buildout cheaply. It can't raise $40 billion of debt at its cost of capital, and its pricey equity demands heavy capex and capacity execution. Reaching even half of TSMC's leading-edge capacity would take over $100 billion more in fabs, and TSMC would have to pause. x.com x.comÂ
