Hyperscaler cloud integration and frontier AI labs could take a fair bit of cybersecurity's economics. Rising AI-token budgets also make higher cyber spending a stretch. Palo Alto Networks, CrowdStrike and Cloudflare have nearly $1 trillion in market cap on less than $20 billion in revenue; even high-quality Palo Alto and Cloudflare look too expensive, while Okta looks indefensibly expensive. The theme has real demand, but these valuations look too high in the short to medium term. x.com 

CrowdStrike and Palo Alto Networks need 50%-plus growth to deliver even a 10% IRR over a realistic horizon, but almost no conceivable case gets them there. They feel as dumb as Zoom and Peloton in 2021. Even if revenue doubles over four to five years, Palo Alto would still trade at 10x revenue and CrowdStrike at 20x, leaving little prospect of a real IRR; Palo Alto is growing in the teens today. x.com  x.com  x.com 

CrowdStrike's re-rating reflects a massively expanded market in which security seats are defined by AI agents rather than employees. The Mythos model announcement and a frontier model going rogue with cyber attacks changed the fundamentals since the stock was at $100. It is very expensive versus its history and peers, and @InvestingVisual notes it trades at 109x forward free cash flow, but that does not mean nothing has changed. x.com 

Palo Alto Networks is the most overvalued cybersecurity stock by a mile, at about 25x forward revenue while growing only 15% organically. Anything above 10x revenue is hard to justify, let alone 20x. Worse, the "Mythos moment" that sent cyber valuations vertical has not yet shown up in its results. x.com  x.com 

Anthropic and OpenAI's inevitable move into cybersecurity threatens CrowdStrike and Palo Alto Networks' valuations. They look like the market's biggest bubble stocks right now; CrowdStrike trades at 40x ARR despite 25% growth and negative GAAP EBIT. x.com  x.com 

CrowdStrike may distinguish itself from an expensive cybersecurity group by showing more breakneck growth at earnings next month. Fortinet's slowing product revenue exposed how much relentless execution investors had priced into the group's extreme multiples, pulling CrowdStrike down in sympathy. CrowdStrike remains in a higher tier than Fortinet, which itself ranks above SentinelOne. x.com  x.com 

Cybersecurity is the real bubble right now, because greater importance in the age of AI does not justify paying valuations like 40x sales for names such as Cloudflare, CrowdStrike and Palo Alto Networks. x.com 

Cybersecurity stocks are priced for near-perfect execution. Forward P/Es stand at 201x for Cloudflare, 163x for CrowdStrike, 77x for Palo Alto Networks, 44x for Fortinet, 39x for Okta and 32x for Zscaler. x.com 

Cybersecurity looks set to boom over the next few years as AI capabilities like Mythos keep advancing. Investors have moved from treating all software as bad to favoring companies that help, work with or combat AI agents. By their charts over the past month, Fortinet, CrowdStrike and Palo Alto Networks look like the group's big three, and Fortinet held up regardless of CrowdStrike's and Palo Alto's results. x.com 

Benioff's enthusiasm and continued bullish promotion on CNBC suggest cybersecurity-stock sentiment is near a peak. Benioff could mark the top in security stocks, the inverse of Bezos's 2022 bottom tick. x.com  x.com