Adobe is hard to want to own after an open-source project reimplemented its full software suite, as @math_fournity reports. x.comÂ
Jonah Lupton
CEO & CIO of FirstWave Capital, Long-Biased Growth
Adobe is among the SaaS companies at risk because AI agents don't care about UX/UI, and SaaS businesses that rely on their interfaces are toast. Some were top SaaS names in 2021, before the ZIRP-era SaaS collapse. x.com x.comÂ
Claude can replace Adobe for PDF editing in minutes. A custom editor took 15 minutes to build, avoided paying Adobe and had more options; Adobe is done for the long term. x.comÂ
Adobe's moat may be that no artists want to build their own Photoshop or Premiere, even as everyone in finance thinks they can vibe code Bloomberg and has the money to try. x.comÂ
Adobe is completely cooked: its low P/E is low for a reason, and there are plenty of better companies to buy. @StockSavvyShay notes that Anthropic's new Claude Design lets users create prototypes, slides and one-pagers by talking to Claude, pushing into territory associated with Figma and Adobe without requiring much design experience. x.comÂ
Adobe faces an existential AI question: if anyone can edit an image or generate a video with a text prompt, what is Photoshop for? Image and video generation is changing faster than almost any field but code, threatening the complex interfaces Creative Cloud was built on, and Adobe relies on Google, OpenAI, Midjourney and others for frontier models. Canva and startups are attacking pieces of the suite. Pixel-perfect editing and Firefly's $250M ARR, up 75% a quarter, are the bull case. x.comÂ
Adobe's professional switching costs make fears of a one-shot replacement look arbitrary. Users would have to retrain for years and migrate established production systems across its many apps; the comparison with Duolingo's streaks and virtual badges is about inconsistent disruption fears, not necessarily a bearish call on Duolingo. x.com x.comÂ
Adobe's core value is being eroded because gen AI increasingly excels at what Adobe did better than anyone: generating and editing images, video, audio and designs. Adobe likely has no proprietary data advantage, or at least none visible, the gap a quoted post says would leave it more exposed to AI disruption. Bulls may know better. x.comÂ
Figma faces a long-term competitive threat because its users have already shown they will switch: every Figma user left the Adobe suite once a better option emerged. If a genuinely better suite at a similar price came along, from Anthropic for example, they could switch again, enterprise layer included. A post the author replies to argues Figma's moat is its governance layer and system of record, citing 46% growth and 139% net dollar retention. A short-term software rebound remains possible. … Show more
Adobe is a strong company hit harder than it should be, as the market treats a temporary slowdown as permanent decline. It fits the undervalued setup of a real moat, temporary rather than structural problems and extremely negative sentiment, where the price has fallen more than the fundamentals, lowering risk and raising upside. Great companies adapt and recover. x.comÂ
Adobe remains the best example of what not to buy because AI has had minimal impact and its backlog is slowing rapidly. Management chose user acquisition over monetization, as Duolingo did, leaving open whether users stay when prices rise; for now, waiting to monetize looks the same as being unable to. Free or cheaper tools that match its specialist subscriptions could cut usage, RPO and cash generation. When acceleration and margin expansion are everywhere, owning neither makes little sense. … Show more