Salesforce is fully priced, even a little more than worth paying, for roughly 12% annual growth: trailing revenue of $43B is expected to reach $63B by 2030. A lower price would be needed for a long-term position, and it is not a buy-and-forget stock. x.com  x.com 

Salesforce faces real AI threats: more competition, margin headwinds from compute costs and disruption risk for businesses like Tableau and Service Cloud. Agentforce is showing some momentum, and the stock felt oversold earlier, but it is not attractive at current levels. x.com 

Salesforce stock should eventually come back to life once the market realizes LLMs will not destroy its business. This replies to a post arguing software, not AI infrastructure, is the market's biggest opportunity over the next two years. x.com 

Salesforce looks vulnerable long term because users hate it and will happily switch to alternatives, while in the AI era users actually liking a product will be a key moat for SaaS stocks. Adobe showed this when users who hated it switched more easily to Figma. Present-day fundamentals look great across these companies, so the threat is still theoretical. x.com 

Salesforce may look cheap, but buying before a genuine reacceleration in its results is gambling. x.com 

Salesforce will probably do OK because it is so deeply embedded with customers, but it may be a cigar butt whose returns come out acceptable without real organic growth. x.com 

Salesforce has one of the worst price-to-value, usability and ecosystem profiles of any CRM, reason enough alone to short it, judging from years of using it as a core work platform and attending Dreamforce. Its 20% one-day jump is a great day for longtime holders to get out. x.com 

Salesforce keeps falling despite a $25 billion debt-funded buyback, a sign of how loosely private credit lends. It issued $25 billion of senior notes in March to fund an accelerated buyback at $198.34, yet the stock is near $163 and below its 52-week low, while ServiceNow trades 20% above its own. A Barron's downgrade hinted at what people already knew: Marc Benioff is doing nothing to steer the company through the SaaS sell-off. x.com  x.com 

Salesforce, at the forefront of CRM for decades, is far likelier to build an even better product for the AI era than companies are to build their own CRM, making it the favorite SaaS name. The case examines what it would take for Salesforce to compound about 27% a year over the next five years. x.com  x.com  x.com 

Salesforce's $25 billion accelerated buyback leans on debt in a way that risks leveraging its future, as happened at Fiserv. Fiserv cut its share count 21.5% with debt-funded buybacks averaging $167 a share, and now trades under $60 as growth fell. Salesforce can afford this round with $14 billion of free cash flow, but growth is slowing to single digits, AI isn't yet transforming its ecosystem, and its goodwill-heavy book limits deals. The risk is that multiples compress and it doubles down. … Show more