Tesla's stronger gross margin and automotive revenue suggest its car business is healthier than bears expected. Gross margin was 19.6% versus 17.8% expected; automotive revenue beat by over $700M, following 486,532 deliveries versus roughly 462,000 expected. Total revenue missed slightly, likely outside autos. Cybercab, unsupervised FSD and Optimus remain the key call tests. Overweight, $697 target with 80% upside. x.com  x.com 

Tesla's 200x earnings multiple asks too much of weak current results and speculative future products. Third-quarter revenue fell 0.4% year over year and EBIT missed estimates by 25%, despite gross-margin and cash-flow beats. Robotaxis, humanoids and other future plans may have appeal, but impressive parts of the business do not make the stock worth its current price. x.com  x.com  x.com 

BYD is still treated as untouchable even after its first-half net income fell 20.5% year over year to 12.33 billion yuan. x.com 

Tesla's low-cost, high-margin Cybercabs make its Robotaxi opportunity bigger than investors appreciate. ARK estimates each costs about $30K to make and generates $93K a year at roughly 68% gross margin; Tesla is not bullish enough in investors' eyes. Texas registrations show 1,080 Teslas, including 573 Cybercabs, versus 1,207 Waymos; these are registrations, not active rides. Cybercabs already outnumber Model Ys less than two months after launch. x.com  x.com  x.com 

Keeping Tesla separate from SpaceX looks better for long-term shareholders because standalone businesses can receive more valuation credit. Tesla's stock trades on FSD and Robotaxi uptake and Optimus's intrinsic value, not Model Y sales or EV demand. Musk announced a committee to explore a merger, with a rumored $550-a-share takeout that would bring a quick pop. The chart targets $395, then $405, and $550 after a close above $440. x.com 

LONGi's entry into energy storage, following BYD and CATL, means another Chinese industry will be crushed by price wars, making these stocks uninvestable. LONGi targets 90GWh of shipments and 70 billion yuan of revenue by 2030, reusing its solar-module channels, brand and cross-selling. Chinese manufacturers always meet a new growth area by adding capacity and cutting margins to grab share, and LONGi will likely chase share with low prices just as in solar modules. x.com  x.com 

Tesla's valuation is too stretched to justify buying now. Slava cites a 189x forward P/E, falling Q3 deliveries, a 1.4% operating margin and negative free cash flow; other investments look preferable. x.com 

Tesla's $1.4T valuation prices in absolute perfection and leaves too little headroom to outperform the market over the next few years. Robotaxis, FSD, Optimus, AI and energy storage are exciting, but the share price pays now for what may be achievable in a decade. Tesla makes half Ford's free cash flow, and Uber earns more than double its net income at about a tenth of the value. Car sales peaked in 2022-23 as Chinese automakers ended growth, so it is unclear where the cash comes from. x.com  … Show more

Car companies make great products but terrible businesses because competition kills margins. A great car keeps a customer away for two decades and a mediocre one sends him to a rival, so there is no recurring revenue. The industry is capital intensive, cyclical, union-heavy and lacks pricing power, with a hundred competitors cutting prices, adding capacity and buying share. That applies to BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Tesla, BYD, Toyota and Volkswagen alike. x.com 

Tesla's FSD attachment figures leave durable paid demand unclear because retention three to six months after the free trial is unknown. Some analysts estimate effective attachment at 30%-40%, and CFO Taneja's selective answers breed skepticism. Management's aspirational targets alone cannot justify Tesla's 175x 2027 P/E and 73x 2027 EV/EBITDA; competitors' actions, customer feedback and supplier activity also matter. Negative earnings revisions and commoditizing autonomy sustain caution. x.com  … Show more